1 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:03,990 greetings and salutations 2 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:06,720 so we're going to hear from some experts 3 00:00:11,910 --> 00:00:09,760 i wanted to know what different experts 4 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:11,920 in different fields would think about 5 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:14,559 this footage is it a living breathing 6 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:18,080 real creature or something else 7 00:00:23,429 --> 00:00:19,039 now 8 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:23,439 the benefit that of those that do not i 9 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:25,519 was once a professional magician and 10 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:29,119 illusionist i also did some puppet work 11 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:31,920 personally and professionally i was a 12 00:00:36,389 --> 00:00:34,000 maker of masks and i created some 13 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:36,399 special effects both for my own shows 14 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:38,879 and for other shows 15 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:41,360 i think that qualifies me to look at 16 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:43,920 something like this and decide if it's a 17 00:00:48,790 --> 00:00:46,000 real living breathing creature being 18 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:48,800 filmed here or if this is just a 19 00:00:53,590 --> 00:00:51,600 carefully created deception in other 20 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:53,600 words an illusion 21 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:54,719 but still 22 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,719 i didn't want you to just take my word 23 00:01:02,069 --> 00:00:58,960 for it i wanted to bring in some other 24 00:01:04,469 --> 00:01:02,079 experts i thought for a while 25 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:04,479 and what i thought about was who would i 26 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,600 hire 27 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:08,159 if i wanted to make some bigfoot 28 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,280 footage 29 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:11,360 and suddenly it hit me 30 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:14,080 there is a powerhouse duo that i got to 31 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:14,960 meet 32 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:16,560 even get to know a little bit from the 33 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:19,439 world of magic and illusions 34 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,159 that would be john bundy and morgan 35 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,720 these two are amazing 36 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,640 they have done magic and illusion shows 37 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:28,720 all over the united states and beyond in 38 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:31,200 theme parks theaters pay-per-view events 39 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:32,479 and more 40 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:35,119 john bundy has done puppet shows all 41 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:36,079 over 42 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:38,479 and created the puppets and built the 43 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:41,520 puppet sets and you know what's really 44 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:44,560 amazing here about these two is that 45 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:47,200 they're not just the on stage talent 46 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:49,680 they do it all they paint and build 47 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:52,079 whole sets they build these incredible 48 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:54,159 stage illusions they script the shows 49 00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:57,119 they perform the shows design costumes 50 00:02:02,069 --> 00:01:58,880 and more 51 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:02,079 they are experts at using stagecraft and 52 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:03,840 music and 53 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,840 lighting to create 54 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:09,520 illusions they are experts at the art of 55 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:10,640 illusion 56 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,080 and using 57 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,800 deception in stagecraft to sell a pretty 58 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:16,319 lie 59 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:17,599 that people 60 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:20,160 fall in love with 61 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:21,599 so i wondered 62 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:24,239 would they think this footage was of a 63 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:26,720 living breathing real creature or would 64 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:29,200 they think it was a pretty lie a 65 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:33,519 carefully crafted lie but still a lie 66 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:35,360 first i wanted to show you some examples 67 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:38,400 of their illusion work and performances 68 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:40,000 and after 69 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:41,680 we will see some examples of their 70 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:43,760 illusion work we'll hear 71 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:46,160 what these experts have to say about 72 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:47,519 this footage 73 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:50,560 is it incredible evidence or just an 74 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:22,949 [Music] 75 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:37,440 so 76 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:05,410 [Music] 77 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:08,830 [Applause] 78 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:17,980 so 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:47,670 [Applause] 80 00:05:26,240 --> 00:04:50,610 so 81 00:06:39,430 --> 00:06:04,840 [Music] 82 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:41,590 well my friends we've seen some of their 83 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:43,199 incredible work 84 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:46,080 but what do these two 85 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:48,880 lifelong masters of illusions think 86 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:52,160 about this alleged bigfoot footage 87 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:54,800 is this a real live 88 00:06:58,230 --> 00:06:57,120 living breathing creature 89 00:07:02,230 --> 00:06:58,240 or 90 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:02,240 is this a carefully constructed illusion 91 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:04,880 of a real creature 92 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:07,360 i was curious what these two would have 93 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:08,479 to say 94 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,240 after viewing the footage so i've sent 95 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,560 them the footage and they have sent me 96 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,039 their thoughts via email here we're 97 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:17,360 going to begin with morgan 98 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:20,800 uh who begins with the short answer 99 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:25,110 so 100 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:28,400 right off the bat she's not impressed 101 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,039 the very first thing that jumps out 102 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:32,880 at me about 103 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:35,199 in all of these videos is that the man 104 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,360 has managed to find a woods completely 105 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:39,840 devoid of wind nothing in these videos 106 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:42,400 moves there is no ambient wind 107 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:49,510 and let's start with the foreground in 108 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:51,919 all the face videos there is the same 109 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:54,160 distinct foreground blurred 110 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:56,319 something closest to the camera in the 111 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,400 first video it is on the left and in the 112 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:00,960 second and third it is on the right 113 00:08:04,469 --> 00:08:03,360 but it is the exact same element 114 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:04,479 the fact 115 00:08:09,909 --> 00:08:07,280 uh that it is the same in all three 116 00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:09,919 videos makes it seem very much like a 117 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:12,879 video overlay she goes on to say the 118 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:15,440 faces in the same overall orientation in 119 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:17,680 all three videos blurred something 120 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:20,160 obscuring one side rock or a large 121 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,000 object in the front covering anything 122 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:24,560 below the chin and a very controlled 123 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:26,960 field of view 124 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:29,520 next she says three once-in-a-lifetime 125 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,080 shots that all look the same 126 00:08:35,909 --> 00:08:34,560 what are the chances of that 127 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:35,919 she says 128 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,080 in the in the running video foreground 129 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:41,039 elements are even more stagnant 130 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:43,680 stagnant and unmoving again no wind not 131 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:44,750 even a breeze 132 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:46,160 [Music] 133 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,800 next she says as for the face itself 134 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:50,880 bigfoot uses hairspray the hair on the 135 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,959 first face is far too neat the eyes are 136 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:55,040 very set back which indicates a 137 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:57,040 thickness of material like a mask or 138 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:59,680 makeup prosthetic apes have deep set 139 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:01,600 eyes but you see the deepness at the 140 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:04,480 brow ridge not in the bottom of the eyes 141 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:11,829 next morgan says that the nose and lips 142 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,000 areas are all dry show no sign of 143 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:16,640 moisture the lips on the second face all 144 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:19,040 appear uh to be exactly the same as 145 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,279 those on the first face indicating the 146 00:09:25,269 --> 00:09:22,399 same mold 147 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:25,279 is being used in the mask or the same 148 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:27,600 person wearing the prosthetics 149 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,160 further morgan says that the eyes also 150 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:32,640 indicate the same person and all three 151 00:09:37,269 --> 00:09:34,720 faces 152 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:37,279 so again she says that the eyes in these 153 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:40,080 films also indicate the same person and 154 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,720 all three faces it's interesting to know 155 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:45,120 that the white of the eye is visible old 156 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:47,360 hollywood movies and makeup artists 157 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:49,519 commonly made this mistake when doing 158 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:50,720 apes 159 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:54,800 and little to no white 160 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:56,959 one could argue that a bigfoot is human 161 00:10:03,670 --> 00:09:59,760 or half human but the eyes in all those 162 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,310 finally morgan says the third one is the 163 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:08,480 worst the wrinkles in the forehead are 164 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:12,399 clearly sculpted in and totally unmoving 165 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:14,800 she says sorry to rain on this guy's 166 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:16,880 parade but there's nothing real about 167 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:20,320 any of these videos 168 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:22,560 so there we have it that's what a 169 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:25,600 lifelong master of illusion thinks of 170 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:28,079 these videos 171 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:28,959 okay 172 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:31,839 next what did john bundy 173 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:33,920 master of illusion 174 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:36,320 lifetime magician 175 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,440 and crafter of beautiful illusions think 176 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:42,000 was this a 177 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:44,560 living breathing creature or a carefully 178 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,480 constructed illusion 179 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,959 so i corresponded with john by email and 180 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:51,120 now we'll go over exactly what he had to 181 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:54,640 say about this alleged bigfoot footage 182 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:56,000 john bundy says 183 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:58,240 to my eye there is no sign of life not a 184 00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:00,560 blink not a twitch no movement at all 185 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,600 except a slight wave back and forth 186 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:05,680 as if someone was trying to hold a teddy 187 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:08,160 bear still over their head i've 188 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:10,079 referenced close-up videos of gorillas 189 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:12,160 great apes and bears there is facial 190 00:11:21,509 --> 00:11:19,430 a big cat can be totally still but can 191 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:21,519 this next john bundy says that the 192 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:23,519 walking shot had a cadence just like the 193 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:25,519 patterson film 194 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:27,519 he believes they were trying to find a 195 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:29,279 similarity 196 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:31,519 next john bundy says that the hair on 197 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:33,920 all the creatures is a bit pristine for 198 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:36,560 a creature without a comb 199 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:39,839 so there we have it friends we have a 200 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:43,200 pair of magicians illusionists who are 201 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:46,079 used to creating illusions both of which 202 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:49,040 have done work with puppets and latex 203 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:51,200 prosthetics 204 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,600 stage illusions and more 205 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:55,519 and both of them took one look at this 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:11:57,360 footage and said 207 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:00,450 this is fake 208 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:18,069 [Music] 209 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:19,509 wait a second 210 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:21,040 did you see that 211 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:22,800 in case you missed it let's go back and 212 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:25,360 have a closer look 213 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:27,200 can you see those three apples way off 214 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:33,110 here's a shot of them as they were a few 215 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:35,360 minutes ago they are three large red 216 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:37,600 delicious apples here's what they look 217 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:40,320 like from the other camera 25 yards away 218 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:43,440 let's call them apples one two and three 219 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:46,079 watch again now closely in slow motion 220 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,509 did you see that 221 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:01,750 have a closer look 222 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,629 where apple 3 once was is now a black 223 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:06,800 empty space 224 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:08,560 if you watch it again in slow motion you 225 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:11,990 can actually see it removed 226 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,960 now watch this 227 00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:24,550 [Music] 228 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,959 that's three at this moment i have no 229 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:29,200 idea those apples are being taken 230 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,030 two 231 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:35,040 and over here 232 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,720 i can hear this guy move it over on me 233 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:37,680 too 234 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:40,399 and there goes apple number one i don't 235 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:49,750 i don't know where to go right now 236 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:51,600 [\h__\h] 237 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:06,790 [Music] 238 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:08,949 in case you didn't notice it i was 239 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:11,199 literally shaking so i was absolutely 240 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:13,360 terrified because 241 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:15,360 all their energy was focused on me and i 242 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:17,279 could feel it i could feel them there 243 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:19,440 when i when i did that pan across i knew 244 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:20,959 there was an individual each one of 245 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:23,519 those spots i knew it i could feel it it 246 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:24,880 was powerful 247 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:27,680 and what is also amazing 248 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:31,440 is after i literally i i trip i fall the 249 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:33,519 light goes off all these things kind of 250 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:36,079 fall apart and i'm done guys i'm tapping 251 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:39,440 like i i'm over adrenalined over 252 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:41,360 emotional over 253 00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:43,519 blown on every level it's as much as i 254 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:45,680 can take so you know what they do 255 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:48,000 they leave me alone they go man that's a 256 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:50,079 good enough my teachers 257 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:50,880 say 258 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,040 he's he's had enough 259 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:55,680 we got our apples which is cool he gave 260 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,440 us that gift with an open wonderful 261 00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,839 heart just because he cares about us 262 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:01,839 because he's building this relationship 263 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:04,240 with us and he's had enough guys leave 264 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:07,279 him alone and they left me alone 265 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:08,320 to the point where they weren't 266 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,600 harassing me anymore i know they 267 00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:11,600 followed me out i know an individual 268 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:13,519 stayed there watched me followed me out 269 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,680 but didn't push me anymore and it was 270 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,279 enough it was enough for me to even the 271 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:19,519 next day i stayed one day 272 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:20,880 just 273 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:24,160 that i'm not hightailing it out of there 274 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,519 that it wasn't a traumatic experience so 275 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:28,079 i spent the whole extra one day there 276 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,920 just to chill out and go i'm cool no 277 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:31,680 more gifts i felt like i'd learned 278 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:32,800 enough too 279 00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:35,279 and i just wanted them to to 280 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:36,800 to say hey yo 281 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:38,000 and put that energy out there i'm 282 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:39,040 leaving 283 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:40,880 everything's cool this was a wonderful 284 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:42,079 experience 285 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:43,440 and i'm gonna go home and i learned my 286 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:46,480 lesson and and and now this relationship 287 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:48,160 can go to a new level which it has and 288 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:50,880 which it has done and which is 289 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,560 so amazing these little subtle things 290 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,560 that are going on are so important and 291 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,399 so rich because that's happening right 292 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:58,000 now right now they're taking apples from 293 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,000 us right now the sasquatch are giving us 294 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,079 beautiful gifts making structures for us 295 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:04,560 we're going to a new level problem is we 296 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:07,199 need to get to a new level and the only 297 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:08,720 way i can see to do that is new footage 298 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,710 [Music] 299 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,720 as we headed deeper into the mountains 300 00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:27,440 for our hike i decided to interview the 301 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,160 mysterious woman that todd was with what 302 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:32,560 is your relationship to todd 303 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:35,440 i am basically an apprentice so i'm here 304 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:37,920 to learn what he has to teach with 305 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:39,759 tracking and 306 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:42,800 looking for bigfoot basically so um so 307 00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:45,680 how did that come about um i was just a 308 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,160 fan and i found him on 309 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:50,160 instagram after watching his documentary 310 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,839 on netflix and 311 00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,360 he answered me back and i was just 312 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:55,839 asking if he does expeditions for uh 313 00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:57,920 just to go for regular people just to go 314 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,360 out and try and find sasquatch and 315 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:03,120 message me back and said he was willing 316 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:04,400 to do that and 317 00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:06,079 now i'm here 318 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,919 dope yeah i am a skeptic slightly until 319 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:12,240 i see it for myself i'm definitely not 320 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,919 going to be able to believe it 321 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:15,360 what was up with the 322 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,319 that sasquatch glove in the back seat i 323 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,240 don't know that was i'm gonna definitely